Comments for http://blog.intheswim.com Blog for swimming pool owners, Care & Repair, Buyer's Guides and Pool Fun information Sat, 19 Aug 2017 10:49:06 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.5 Comment on Pool Shock: When & How Much? by Davy Merino http://blog.intheswim.com/pool-shock-when-how-much/comment-page-1/#comment-4782 Sat, 19 Aug 2017 10:49:06 +0000 http://blog.intheswim.com/?p=5002#comment-4782 Hi, it could be the filter, yes. Make sure that all internal parts are in place, to force the water thru the cartidges. Loose or missing parts can cause water to bypass the grids. Secondly, start running the filter 24/7, if you aren’t already. Third, make sure your pH level is low, around 7.2, for greatest chlorine potency. Dark green you say? Needs more chlorine – much more (and a low pH), until the water turns a blue – gray color. If still not turning around, I would suspect Phosphate contamination, which can be tested for with phosphate test strips, and treated with phosphate remover.

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Comment on Hayward Pool Pump Troubleshooting by Davy Merino http://blog.intheswim.com/hayward-pool-pump-troubleshooting/comment-page-4/#comment-4781 Sat, 19 Aug 2017 10:42:44 +0000 http://blog.intheswim.com/?p=13771#comment-4781 Hi, if the switch won’t flip to on, the timer tripper could be right at the point where it is about to trip, making it hard to turn to on. IF the switch works, but the motor does not come on, then I would first look at the ‘Visual Motor Check’ on Intermatic clocks. Use a flashlight, and you should see gears moving thru the small view hole. If the gears are not moving, either the motor for the clock is dead, or insects or lizard is stuck in the gears, or the breaker is tripped or off, or the breaker is bad. If the gears are moving, then power should be coming out of the timeclock to the motor. Check for power with a multimeter, at the timeclock and at the pump motor terminal board. If you have power coming into the motor, but no pump noise, check (Power off) that wire connections are tight, and inspect the wire for breaks or damage. If still nothing, look for damage in the rear of the motor, something burned, melted, loose, or pinched or cut wires.

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Comment on Hayward Pool Pump Troubleshooting by Heath http://blog.intheswim.com/hayward-pool-pump-troubleshooting/comment-page-4/#comment-4779 Fri, 18 Aug 2017 18:10:32 +0000 http://blog.intheswim.com/?p=13771#comment-4779 Hi, I have a filter timer and a cleaner timer that are side-by-side. The filter timer will not turn on at all, even when trying manually but the cleaner does. Could this be an issue with my pump?

Thanks.

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Comment on Pool Shock: When & How Much? by Kelly http://blog.intheswim.com/pool-shock-when-how-much/comment-page-1/#comment-4778 Fri, 18 Aug 2017 15:21:29 +0000 http://blog.intheswim.com/?p=5002#comment-4778 Have a 30k gallon pool that recently became overrun with algae when we were on vacation. We have monitored levels and dumped a huge amount of shock over the last week with absolutely no improvement. The pool is dark green but FC levels are optimal. We just installed a Jacuzzi cartridge filter system last month and it was working incredible until now. Do you think the filter system has something to do with being unable to get any kind of improvement? We have taken cartridges out and cleaned them twice. Please advise.

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Comment on Shocking a Pool to Remove Algae by Davy Merino http://blog.intheswim.com/shocking-a-pool-to-remove-algae/comment-page-1/#comment-4776 Fri, 18 Aug 2017 04:23:49 +0000 http://blog.intheswim.com/?p=9762#comment-4776 Hi Sarah, the low pH level is good for shocking the pool, chlorine is much more active at a low pH level. Alkalinity is OK at 80 ppm. Clarifier is a good final step after shocking, after the chlorine level drops back down a bit, especially useful for pool filters that are super effective.

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Comment on Above Ground Pool Maintenance Guide by Davy Merino http://blog.intheswim.com/above-ground-pool-maintenance-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-4775 Fri, 18 Aug 2017 04:21:34 +0000 http://blog.intheswim.com/?p=14318#comment-4775 Hi Tom, totally disagree with the store, a tablet floater will deliver a constant and consistent level of chlorine, which granules cannot do. Any pool chlorine floater will do – there are dozens on the market. YOu don’t need a big one, because you may only need to use 2 tablets at a time, and then set the openings to release enough to produce a constant 1-2 ppm of chlorine in the water. They will last about a week, and then just pop in 2 more tablets!

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Comment on Hayward Pool Pump Troubleshooting by Davy Merino http://blog.intheswim.com/hayward-pool-pump-troubleshooting/comment-page-4/#comment-4774 Fri, 18 Aug 2017 04:11:19 +0000 http://blog.intheswim.com/?p=13771#comment-4774 Bobby, yes that would rule out the power source, or the outlet as being the problem. So, it could be a problem with the cord, or the connection on the other end of the cord, likely if the motor is making no noise at all. If there is a little noise, check the motor capacitor, or look at the motor switches in the back, look for anything that looks or smells funny. 🙂

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Comment on Stains and Discoloration in a Vinyl Liner Pool by Davy Merino http://blog.intheswim.com/stains-and-discoloration-in-a-vinyl-liner-pool/comment-page-1/#comment-4773 Fri, 18 Aug 2017 04:09:05 +0000 http://blog.intheswim.com/?p=3638#comment-4773 Hi Sunny, if it is a scale, I would try using some vinegar, diluted 50/50 with water. In a spray bottle. Simple Green is another chemical, for another purpose than scale, for grease. Since you’ve cleaned the pool already, try spraying or wiping on a mild acid like diluted vinegar or lemon juice to see how that does on the scale

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Comment on Cyanuric Acid: A Discussion on Chlorine Stabilizer by Davy Merino http://blog.intheswim.com/cyanuric-acid-a-discussion-on-chlorine-stabilizer/comment-page-1/#comment-4772 Fri, 18 Aug 2017 04:07:04 +0000 http://blog.intheswim.com/?p=4555#comment-4772 If your chlorine is still high tomorrow, or today – the cyanuric may be in the water. I am suspecting bad test results? Not a common thing, so maybe the reagent is bad, or the test strip. Be careful that you don’t add too much. If you use tablets to sanitize the pool, you only need a few lbs to start (if near zero cyanuric). Using tablets will slowly raise the cya over time, unless you get a lot of rain, or backwash the pool a lot.

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Comment on Painting the Pool vs. Plastering the Pool by Davy Merino http://blog.intheswim.com/painting-the-pool-or-plastering-the-pool/comment-page-1/#comment-4771 Fri, 18 Aug 2017 04:04:20 +0000 http://50.87.183.84/?p=3279#comment-4771 Hi Tom, I think Simple Green might be a good choice.

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Comment on Pool Shock: Shocking for Algae Removal by Davy Merino http://blog.intheswim.com/pool-shock-shocking-for-algae-removal/comment-page-1/#comment-4770 Fri, 18 Aug 2017 04:03:25 +0000 http://blog.intheswim.com/?p=5896#comment-4770 Hi Diane, use 1/2 lb, and then seal up the bag tightly inside of a ziploc, to keep out moisture and prevent spills. Before adding, check and adjust pH if needed, to be in the low end of the range, around 7.2-7.3. Predissolve the shock into a 5 gal. bucket of water, then pour around the pool, then brush pool, and run filter for at least 4 hours, if not overnight.

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Comment on Shocking a Pool to Remove Algae by Sarah http://blog.intheswim.com/shocking-a-pool-to-remove-algae/comment-page-1/#comment-4769 Fri, 18 Aug 2017 02:40:29 +0000 http://blog.intheswim.com/?p=9762#comment-4769 I am new to pool ownership. This is my first summer tuning it. I have a vinyl liner and have kept my chemicals perfect all summer (chlorine, Ph, and alkalinity), but it has been raining nearly nonstop for almost 2 weeks so algae got ahold of my pool. I shocked the pool 20k gal pool with 4lbs of shock with no change so I added 2 more lbs and that knocked it out. My Ph went from high reading to 7.2, chlorine is a 2, and alkalinity is 80. My pool is clear now, but cloudy. I’m waiting until morning to decide how it looks and what I may need to do next. Should I mess with the alkalinity and add 5lbs to bring it up a bit? I’ve never used clarifier, but it seems that might get rid of the milky/gray look to the water. Thanks!

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Comment on Pool Shock: Shocking for Algae Removal by DIANE http://blog.intheswim.com/pool-shock-shocking-for-algae-removal/comment-page-1/#comment-4768 Fri, 18 Aug 2017 01:59:35 +0000 http://blog.intheswim.com/?p=5896#comment-4768 .]]> Hi
I just have a kids pool….intex 15ft x 33 inches round.
I use the chlorine tablets….but now water is turning green.
How much shock do I use?
I bought a 1 lb bag.
I think it is 2600 gallons of water

Thanks for any helpappreciate it
DIANE 😊 .

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Comment on Painting the Pool vs. Plastering the Pool by Tom http://blog.intheswim.com/painting-the-pool-or-plastering-the-pool/comment-page-1/#comment-4765 Fri, 18 Aug 2017 01:53:42 +0000 http://50.87.183.84/?p=3279#comment-4765 hi Davy:

I am using a cold water power washer to clean my empty pool. I bought TSP before I realized it cannot be used w/the power washer I bought. Can you recommend a cleaning agent that will not hurt the PW or my sump pump?

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Comment on Cyanuric Acid: A Discussion on Chlorine Stabilizer by Debby http://blog.intheswim.com/cyanuric-acid-a-discussion-on-chlorine-stabilizer/comment-page-1/#comment-4764 Fri, 18 Aug 2017 01:50:04 +0000 http://blog.intheswim.com/?p=4555#comment-4764 my cya level was not registering. It was well below the 30 mark. We added to stabilizer as directed and still the following day we had 0 reading. I had added an additional amt with still 0 reading. We have a salt water pool so today i added 1 gal on chlorine and at least we now have a high reading of chlorine. Is it maybe a bad stabilizer?

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Comment on Stains and Discoloration in a Vinyl Liner Pool by Sunny D http://blog.intheswim.com/stains-and-discoloration-in-a-vinyl-liner-pool/comment-page-1/#comment-4763 Thu, 17 Aug 2017 20:35:57 +0000 http://blog.intheswim.com/?p=3638#comment-4763 Hello, we are just getting around to opening our pool this season. It was full of leaves and algae. We drained the pool and scrubbed the sides. All of the brownish color and algae came off very easily, but there’s a white scale that’s still on the entire liner. It comes off if you gently scratch at it with your fingernail, but the pool is 18×30, so that would take forever. What would you recommend that is a gentle cleaner for the liner. Again, the pool is empty right now.
Thank you:)

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Comment on Above Ground Pool Maintenance Guide by Tom http://blog.intheswim.com/above-ground-pool-maintenance-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-4762 Thu, 17 Aug 2017 17:58:51 +0000 http://blog.intheswim.com/?p=14318#comment-4762 I have an 8′ x 16′ Intex above ground pool with an upgraded sand filter that I run for 12 hours a day.
I have everything pretty well balanced and am adding about 2oz of chlorine granules that I dilute in a bucket before adding to the pool every week to keep the chlorine level where it should be. The pool is about 2800 gallons.
I was told not to use a floating chlorinator by the pool supply store near me, but I’m thinking they were wrong.
If I add a floater, is there a good kind and any idea how many chlorine tabs I would use at a time?

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Comment on Hayward Pool Pump Troubleshooting by Bobby http://blog.intheswim.com/hayward-pool-pump-troubleshooting/comment-page-4/#comment-4759 Thu, 17 Aug 2017 00:09:02 +0000 http://blog.intheswim.com/?p=13771#comment-4759 Hi,

Good day!

The pump does not start. So,as a first step to see if the power outlet is broken or not, I tried to charge my cellphone to the power outlet and it is charging. Then, I tried plugged the pump into another power outlet and it still does not work. Does it mean the problem is on the pump itself ?

Thanks in advance!

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Comment on Installing a Propane Swimming Pool Heater by Davy Merino http://blog.intheswim.com/installing-a-propane-swimming-pool-heater/comment-page-1/#comment-4758 Wed, 16 Aug 2017 23:58:55 +0000 http://blog.intheswim.com/?p=6403#comment-4758 Hi Donna, I believe that the best size would be a 200 gallon tank, that should last you quite a while, but your propane supplier or dealer could better advise.

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Comment on Installing a Propane Swimming Pool Heater by Donna M http://blog.intheswim.com/installing-a-propane-swimming-pool-heater/comment-page-1/#comment-4757 Wed, 16 Aug 2017 22:25:44 +0000 http://blog.intheswim.com/?p=6403#comment-4757 Have a 14 by 20foot above ground pool.
Bought a 150,000 but heater.
What size of propane tanks would you suggest?

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Comment on Best Pool Filter Type: DE, Sand or Cartridge? by Davy Merino http://blog.intheswim.com/best-pool-filter-type-de-sand-or-cartridge/comment-page-1/#comment-4755 Wed, 16 Aug 2017 12:00:15 +0000 http://blog.intheswim.com/?p=3374#comment-4755 Hi, no salt pellets won’t filter the water, and won’t provide any benefit to clean water.

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Comment on Hayward Pool Pump Troubleshooting by Davy Merino http://blog.intheswim.com/hayward-pool-pump-troubleshooting/comment-page-4/#comment-4754 Wed, 16 Aug 2017 11:59:08 +0000 http://blog.intheswim.com/?p=13771#comment-4754 It shouldn’t be overheating, not in twenty seconds, but I suppose it could. Does it turn on again by itself, about 20 minutes later (after cooling down)? Could possibly be loose wires on the motor or timer, possibly a loose centrifugal switch or stationary switch on the motor, or maybe the windings in the motor are shorting out. If you have a local electric motor shop in town, you could drive your motor over there for testing. My guess is they would pronounce it DOA, but may find something interesting, or may find no problem at all, which would lead you to suspect the wiring, breaker, timer – the source of power. When it shuts off, you could also test power, to be sure power is still reaching the motor, with a multimeter tester.

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Comment on The Ultimate Guide to Pool Water Balance by Davy Merino http://blog.intheswim.com/the-ultimate-guide-to-pool-water-balance/comment-page-1/#comment-4753 Wed, 16 Aug 2017 11:54:41 +0000 http://blog.intheswim.com/?p=13729#comment-4753 Making big changes to Alkalinity is a bit of a viscous cycle, yes. But it will end, after a few cycles of raising Alk up, then lowering pH, raising Alk up, lowering pH again… until you get it right. When adding the pH decreaser, broadcast it, or pour it widely around the edge, instead of adding it all in one spot. This is supposed to have less effect on alkalinity. Because, as you know, when you add the pH decreaser to lower pH, it will also lower the Alk somewhat. Keep at it, you’ll get there. The self dosing acid may causing the problem, perhaps a probe sensor is dirty, or is causing the problem in some other way, constantly lowering your pH, which hammers your alkalinity as well…

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Comment on Inground Pool Heater Buyer’s Guide by Davy Merino http://blog.intheswim.com/inground-pool-heater-buyers-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-4752 Wed, 16 Aug 2017 11:49:01 +0000 http://blog.intheswim.com/?p=14041#comment-4752 Hi Gerry, it depends on what is failing on the heater? It could likely be repaired, and not replaced. If it is the heat exchanger leaking or stripping out, that would be a low pH / low alkalinity problem. That can be expensive, but less than a new heater. My local 205,000 gallon pool has a Raypak 1200K BTU heater that has been in place for 10 years, and it’s running strong. Maybe your heater is too small for the job? maybe the water flow is too great thru the heater? Depends on what is failing on your heater, but again, likely could be repaired, not replaced. If you are being advised by your pool company that you need a new heater, perhaps they just want to sell you a heater, every five years, but I’m naturally skeptical of such things. Something around a million BTU’s would be recommended (commercial heaters), brand doesn’t matter so much, Jandy, Raypak, StaRite (Pentair), all good stuff.

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Comment on Pool Shock: When & How Much? by Davy Merino http://blog.intheswim.com/pool-shock-when-how-much/comment-page-1/#comment-4750 Wed, 16 Aug 2017 11:36:49 +0000 http://blog.intheswim.com/?p=5002#comment-4750 Hi Brent, it could be metals or minerals causing the color, or pollen. Especially since you see it more in the deep end, you’re not nutty. Try using a Stain & Scale sequestering agent to lock up minerals and metals, which requires maintenance doses every few weeks, as chlorine breaks it down. Now, it could also be algae beginning to form, which can be removed by shocking the pool, but since the water is clear, it is likely metals.

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